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"A cage went in search of a bird."

New2K2 January 21, 2021 at 07:18 28675 views 44 comments
This aphorism is something I've been pondering from Kafka's The Zurau Aphorisms.

At first I couldn't parse it, further thought on it has given me only two posssible interpretations.

First, the cage is an opinion, and an untrained mind is the bird. In this case I see a possible criticism of philosophers and thinkers, opinions flitter about like rumours, loud, increasingly intricate and enticing. When a 'thinker' adopts an opinion he becomes caged. From that cage he studies the world and while he can still see his view is changed. He is now constant instead of free and interprets everything with himself as the axis mundi.



My second interpretation stems from the introduction to the book which states that Kafka was happiest when he was sick and certain of death. Such a temperament/outlook might indicate that Kafka considered the human body a cage and his mind/soul a bird. This seems like a very religious view however so I can't say how likely it is.

What do you guys think this aphorism means? What do you think of my interpretation?

Comments (44)

TheMadFool January 21, 2021 at 07:49 #491122
The way I see it, all humans, perhaps all sentient beings for that matter, come with a constellation of limits to (their) understanding imposed by physical or mental factors (sorry I can't be more specific than that) and we, humans, try our very best to fit reality, the universe, within a construct so constrained. In short, we are the cage and reality is the bird we want encage i.e. grasp on our own terms.
New2K2 January 21, 2021 at 09:21 #491136
Reply to TheMadFool Nice. This was a perspective I never thought of. Thanks!
180 Proof January 21, 2021 at 10:45 #491150
Quoting TheMadFool
The way I see it, all humans, perhaps all sentient beings for that matter, come with a constellation of limits to (their) understanding imposed by physical or mental factors (sorry I can't be more specific than that) and we, humans, try our very best to fit reality, the universe, within a construct so constrained. In short, we are the cage and the reality is the bird we want encage i.e. grasp on our own terms.

:fire: :clap:
Kenosha Kid January 21, 2021 at 11:27 #491161
Seems kind of anti-parallel with Dostoevsky's line:


[M]an is tormented by no greater anxiety than to find someone quickly to whom he can hand over that gift of freedom with which the ill-fated creatures is born.


It also reminds me of meme theory.

But it could be more literal: A cage is for removing the freedom of a bird; a bird is not for caging. The cage must find its bird, not vice versa. Seems obvious, but back then it was probably a common mindset that the purpose of a bird is to be held in a cage (in the same way the purpose of a cat is to mouse, the purpose of an ox is to plough, etc.).
baker January 21, 2021 at 12:12 #491171
I see it as Kafka's usual theme of impending doom and helplessness in the face of it, and the cynical resignation toward this prospect.
New2K2 January 21, 2021 at 12:30 #491181
Reply to baker So the cage is impending doom?
baker January 21, 2021 at 13:13 #491203
For the bird, yes.
It's that theme -- "Jemand musste Josef K. verleumdet haben". That "they're going to get you, they're going to bring you down". And "Gib's auf!".
Dawnstorm January 21, 2021 at 16:25 #491267
ThaMadFool's interpretation works for me.

This, too:Quoting Kenosha Kid
A cage is for removing the freedom of a bird; a bird is not for caging.


But I'd say I'd shift the focus onto the cage. This being Kafka, there's no guarantee the cage will ever find a bird, or will declare that an ostrich isn't a bird, because it's not what it's looking for...

Kafka was a beaurocrat. Imagine people creating an office to solve a problem, and then when the office actually solves that problem, do they dissolve the office?

I think the line is ironic. We think of the caging to cage the bird, but the cage is a cage unto itself. If there's no bird in it, it's empty.
baker January 21, 2021 at 16:39 #491271
Quoting Dawnstorm
I think the line is ironic. We think of the caging to cage the bird, but the cage is a cage unto itself. If there's no bird in it, it's empty.

Like defiance, overcoming?
But that makes it a Pyrrhic victory: remove, undo the self, so that there's no one to cage.
Dawnstorm January 21, 2021 at 17:15 #491291
Quoting baker
Like defiance, overcoming?
But that makes it a Pyrrhic victory: remove, undo the self, so that there's no one to cage.


I think overcoming the situation is outside of the scope of the quote. It's just a description of the situation. You can try to overcome the situation, or you can lament its inevitability (which would probably the default reaction for Kafka himself, if I read him right). Note, too, that the purpose of a bird in a cage lies without the cage. For the cage it's just the way things are.

thewonder January 22, 2021 at 17:05 #491612
Reply to New2K2
I see it somewhat blankly. The cage is like Chekov's gun. Once the cage is built, it just finds a bird to live in it. It's about how authoritarian societal structures have a life of their own. I think it's sort of an Absurdist phrase.
Khalid March 13, 2021 at 00:06 #509558
To me Kafka is describing the capitalistic institutions of modern life that have been established to imprison and dominate the helpless individual. In the Grapes of Wrath, Steinbeck expresses the idea that the bank as an institution has been established by man but it controls and humiliates him as he has to abide by its regulations or goes to prison.
T Clark March 13, 2021 at 00:15 #509568
Quoting New2K2
"A cage went in search of a bird.".


Two similar ironic aphorisms come to mind:

[i]To a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

You may not be interested in war, but war is interested in you.[/i]

The second is apparently a fake quote attributed to Leon Trotsky by author Alan Furst.

New2K2 March 13, 2021 at 07:59 #509744
Reply to T Clark Are these also from a collection of Aphorisms?
I liked the first one.
Tom Storm March 13, 2021 at 08:17 #509746
Quoting T Clark
"A cage went in search of a bird.".
— New2K2

Two similar ironic aphorisms come to mind:

To a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

You may not be interested in war, but war is interested in you.

The second is apparently a fake quote attributed to Leon Trotsky by author Alan Furst.


My favourite version of the first which I was told was Maslow (but such quotes seem to transmigrate) is this: "If the only tool you have is a hammer, you treat everything as a nail.' Which sharpens it for me.

The limits of a person's world view.

My reading of a cage went in search of a bird is - a cage is pointless without a bird in it. So it describes all the empty people 'cages' in search of their truth 'birds'. When they find it they will trap it and render it a prisoner in their mind - where the meaning no longer soars.
Amity March 13, 2021 at 09:04 #509755
Quoting New2K2
from the introduction to the book which states that Kafka was happiest when he was sick and certain of death. Such a temperament/outlook might indicate that Kafka considered the human body a cage and his mind/soul a bird


I haven't read Kafka or The Zurau Aphorisms.
Thanks for the introduction. Great question.

I read that Kafka wrote these quick mental illuminations while convalescing. So, in a way his physical body was holed up, or caged, but also free from his usual work or obligations.
http://zurauaphorisms.blogspot.com/2011/12/number-sixteen.html

If so limited, then our minds need occupation; to search and then attempt to capture or write down whatever thoughts or ideas arise. Just as a bird is held for the purposes of appreciation, so a golden aphorism is treasured.

The words, alive at the time, if kept for posterity aren't allowed to change, even if our minds do. There for all time for others to gape at and dissect...
When all they are is an expression of a moment's creativity.

If ideas become dead dogma, this might be likened to the rituals of tribes or a set of religious beliefs from which individuals can't escape. Stuffed birds. No flying allowed.















T Clark March 13, 2021 at 17:14 #509846
Quoting New2K2
Are these also from a collection of Aphorisms?
I liked the first one.


Not from any collection I know of. I don't know where I heard the first one. It's pretty common. See Tom Storm's response to my post - Reply to Tom Storm

The second, which I love, is used as an epigraph in "Night Soldiers," a wonderful book by Alan Furst. If you are interested in historical novels about the years surrounding World War II, there are none better than Furst's. Some people say Trotsky actually said it. Some say Furst modified a different Trotsky quote.

T Clark March 13, 2021 at 17:28 #509850
Quoting Tom Storm
My favourite version of the first which I was told was Maslow (but such quotes seem to transmigrate) is this: "If the only tool you have is a hammer, you treat everything as a nail.' Which sharpens it for me.


I don't doubt that Maslow's quote came first, but I like the one I quoted better. First - when it comes to aphorisms, shorter is usually better. Also - The idea of a live hammer searching out nails to smash always makes me smile. I think, most important, the version I quoted is ironic and sinister, which I think is appropriate to it's meaning. I think the quote @New2K2 used is ironic and sinister in a similar way, although others seem to see it differently.

Quoting Tom Storm
The limits of a person's world view.


There's a psychological term, "functional fixedness," which gets at that. E.g., how many times have I used a knife as a screwdriver, usually because I'm just too lazy to go down in the basement? Some people might not think of that because they couldn't see around what knives are supposed to be used for.

Quoting Tom Storm
My reading of a cage went in search of a bird is - a cage is pointless without a bird in it. So it describes all the empty people 'cages' in search of their truth 'birds'. When they find it they will trap it and render it a prisoner in their mind - where the meaning no longer soars.


That's pretty close to my reading, although, as I said, it feels a bit more sinister than that to me.
T Clark March 13, 2021 at 17:34 #509852
Quoting Dawnstorm
I think the line is ironic. We think of the caging to cage the bird, but the cage is a cage unto itself. If there's no bird in it, it's empty.


Or, maybe, without a bird, it's not a cage at all, it's just a box made of wire.
T Clark March 13, 2021 at 17:35 #509853
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Tom Storm March 13, 2021 at 23:27 #509967
Quoting T Clark
Also - The idea of a live hammer searching out nails to smash always makes me smile. I think, most important, the version I quoted is ironic and sinister, which I think is appropriate to it's meaning.


I thought there was something sinister about your worldview, TC....

Just joking. I guess I like Maslow's because I have used it often with students and junior colleagues to great effect.

Quoting T Clark
Or, maybe, without a bird, it's not a cage at all, it's just a box made of wire.


That thought also occurred to me. A beautiful, decorated bird cage is just a lovely sculpture paused in the process of becoming a prison.
T Clark March 14, 2021 at 00:21 #509997
Quoting Tom Storm
I thought there was something sinister about your worldview


I am the brightest ray of sunshine on the forum.
Amity March 14, 2021 at 09:20 #510187
Quoting T Clark
My reading of a cage went in search of a bird is - a cage is pointless without a bird in it. So it describes all the empty people 'cages' in search of their truth 'birds'. When they find it they will trap it and render it a prisoner in their mind - where the meaning no longer soars.
— Tom Storm

That's pretty close to my reading, although, as I said, it feels a bit more sinister than that to me.


For me, this thread has really brought home to me how our various interpretations reflect our own selves and what is important to us. Perhaps, I have been too cage-y with mine, not seeing any sinister aspects. So, on further reflection:

I began to think in terms of freedom and those associated with knowledge and understanding: comprehend, apprehend, grasp.

There is more than one bird or cage. What kind of bird, what size of cage. Whose cage ? Some birds are too big and can't be caged. Why would a cage want to capture a bird ?

A bird can be seen as knowledge or understanding to be grasped.
So, how might this be 'sinister' ?
Perhaps in alighting and settling on a Dangerous Idea; one which might upset the status quo.
My cage, or mind, might search for this as a way to gain freedom. To find and be myself.
However, other bigger cages ( perhaps society ) might seek to trap me and limit free thinking.
To live within current cultural mores.

A caged bird can't fly. What else cannot fly if restricted be e.g. lack of books or experience.
The spirit. The imagination. Thought ?

Our thoughts and imagination can fly or soar even when others might wish to stop free thinking.
But sometimes, we ourselves are scared to think out of the box or the cage of custom or upbringing for fear of the consequences. We feel safe clinging to the trappings of categories...we label ourselves for ease of description but... to confine ourselves to a single position...that can't be good for us ?

So, @T Clark I guess that's about as sinister as I can reach right now.
Could you expand on how you see it as such ?




Amity March 14, 2021 at 09:25 #510189
Quoting New2K2
When a 'thinker' adopts an opinion he becomes caged. From that cage he studies the world and while he can still see his view is changed. He is now constant instead of free and interprets everything with himself as the axis mundi.


Yes. Having thought further, this seems right to me. But only as part of a bigger cage where not only the self but others are involved in the trapping for their own purposes...perhaps ?

A nest of cages...
Tom Storm March 14, 2021 at 09:36 #510192
Quoting Amity
So, T Clark I guess that's about as sinister as I can reach right now.
Could you expand on how you see it as such ?


I have to say - 'A cage went in search of a bird' - initially had be thinking it was the start of a Jewish joke. It also sounds like a euphemism for what happens whenever I go to the library...
Amity March 14, 2021 at 09:38 #510193
Quoting Tom Storm
It also sounds like a euphemism for what happens whenever I go to the library...


:smile:
You can go to a library ?

Tom Storm March 14, 2021 at 09:40 #510194
Reply to Amity Don't know. It's been a while.
Amity March 14, 2021 at 09:45 #510195
Reply to Tom Storm

A virus went in search of a human...
Amity March 15, 2021 at 09:25 #510532
Quoting Tom Storm
I have to say - 'A cage went in search of a bird' - initially had be thinking it was the start of a Jewish joke.


Asking myself why I skipped over this - probably because it made me think of the Holocaust and the prison camps.
First, why would Jews joke about this?

Until a few minutes ago, I didn't know about 'Holocaust humour' and its place in America.
An interesting read:
https://theconversation.com/why-holocaust-jokes-can-only-be-told-by-a-jewish-comedian-87027

Next, why did I shy away from the dark, or sinister, side. Perhaps a coping mechanism, I know about being depressed and try not to dwell on things which might affect my mood in a negative way.
I seem to have coached my brain/mind to assess and then lift up before any downward spiral occurs.

Now, I remember I did read Kafka's 'The Trial' a long time ago.
I couldn't remember the details, but here's the conclusion. From an article:
Tim, "Kafka: The Trial (Analysis), May 12, 2012, " in Philosophy & Philosophers, May 12, 2012, https://www.the-philosophy.com/kafka-trial-analysis.

Joseph K. is an anti-hero, he lives in inauthenticity, it is actually guilty. Accused, wrongly perhaps, he eventually abdicated, he is convinced he is guilty. While he could escape, flee his trial, K., like modern man prefers to be killed, he abandoned all desire to live. He was shot down “like a dog” because he lets himself be dominated by the society, which has fixed, objectified, riveted him to his guilt.


So, now - it takes me while - I see the sinister side of the saying.
Quoting T Clark
That's pretty close to my reading, although, as I said, it feels a bit more sinister than that to me.

Is that what you were getting at ?

Again, following the trail of prisoner camps - it harks back to something I mentioned earlier re categories.

Quoting Amity
We feel safe clinging to the trappings of categories...we label ourselves for ease of description but... to confine ourselves to a single position...that can't be good for us ?


I had meant that it takes a bit of courage or skill to think outside the box, or your comfort zone.
I mentioned 'safety'. However, labelling yourself as being a [fill in the gap] can give a false sense of security. It can bring dangers. One tribe against the other. How do we deal with that when so many seem intent to stir divisions in our society...
Is this human nature...cages going in search of birds...?

Quoting Holocaust Encyclopedia
German prison guards and officers could identify groups and pit them against each other.
Political prisoners, such as Communists, Socialists, and trade unionists wore red triangles. Common criminals wore green. Roma View This Term in the Glossary (Gypsies) and others the Germans considered "asocial" or "shiftless" wore black triangles. Jehovah's Witnesses wore purple and homosexuals pink. Letters indicated nationality: for example, P stood for Polish, SU for Soviet Union, F for French.




T Clark March 15, 2021 at 13:44 #510571
Quoting Amity
For me, this thread has really brought home to me how our various interpretations reflect our own selves and what is important to us.


I think you'll find, if you ever have a question about an interpretation, mine is probably the correct one.

Quoting Amity
So, how might this be 'sinister' ?


In my first response on this thread, I included two quotes that the bird aphorism reminded me of. They were both pretty sinister, especially the ersatz Trotsky quote. Either for that reason or some other, the cage quote just felt threatening. I see a shifty-eyed cage going out hunting so it can trap the bird under it's control.
Amity March 15, 2021 at 14:27 #510583
Quoting T Clark
I think you'll find, if you ever have a question about an interpretation, mine is probably the correct one.

Ah, mais naturellement !! :roll:

Quoting T Clark
Either for that reason or some other, the cage quote just felt threatening. I see a shifty-eyed cage going out hunting so it can trap the bird under it's control.


Yes, I noticed the 2 quotes.
I thought there might be another reason, other than a feeling - as you say.
Does the cage have wings attached to capture birds in flight or settle in trees...
Seriously, I understand the sinister aspect.
I read this recent article about the practice of capturing finches:

The birds had been captured in nearby forests using glue strips or nets. Some were visibly frightened by life in captivity. A few had begun the halting process of habituation, waiting on their perches instead of bashing against the bars. And the “baddest” birds—which in Guyanese patois means the best birds—were just about ready to burst into song.

https://www.guernicamag.com/bad-birds-in-quarantine/?mc_cid=dd21d20830&mc_eid=c4d8566ef3

Horrible :fear:

T Clark March 15, 2021 at 14:35 #510584
Quoting Amity
Ah, mais naturellement !!


Finally, someone agrees with me about that.
Amity March 15, 2021 at 14:36 #510585
Quoting T Clark
Finally, someone agrees with me about that.


:lol:

Valentinus March 16, 2021 at 01:21 #510821
Reply to New2K2
I read a good portion of Kafka as pointing out how we become partners to agents intent upon our demise. The general ethic I get from those observations is that while you probably won't defeat the forces arrayed against you, don't add insult to injury by helping them.
Tom Storm March 16, 2021 at 01:33 #510824
Quoting Valentinus
don't add insult to injury by helping them.


I agree. Josef K should just have lain down that morning and offered them a butcher's knife... :joke:
Valentinus March 16, 2021 at 01:48 #510831
Reply to Tom Storm
I see that but he didn't seem interested in alternative responses as changes in the narrative. The narrative is a player too. In another aphorism, he said:

"The true way goes over a rope, not stretched at any great height but just above the ground. It seems more designed to cause people to stumble than to be walked upon."
Amity March 16, 2021 at 07:25 #510892
Reply to Valentinus Reply to Tom Storm

After reading your comments, I wanted to find out more about Kafka. He is more intriguing than I first thought.
Understanding Kafka.

Have you read his 'Letter to His Father' ? What do you think of it ?
https://www.brainpickings.org/2015/03/05/franz-kafka-letter-father/
Tom Storm March 16, 2021 at 10:38 #510945
Quoting Amity
He is more intriguing than I first thought.


Reading Kafka after the Holocaust gives it a different flavour and I can't unread that particular tragedy in the work.The Trial and Josef K's 'guilt' plays totally differently. We're back to a sinister cage looking for a bird.
Amity March 16, 2021 at 13:32 #511002
Quoting Tom Storm
Reading Kafka after the Holocaust gives it a different flavour and I can't unread that particular tragedy in the work.The Trial and Josef K's 'guilt' plays totally differently. We're back to a sinister cage looking for a bird.


Yup.
I was asking another question.

Quoting Amity
Understanding Kafka.
Have you read his 'Letter to His Father' ? What do you think of it ?
https://www.brainpickings.org/2015/03/05/franz-kafka-letter-father/


Valentinus March 16, 2021 at 14:20 #511016
Reply to Amity
The letter is interesting. One can certainly see the anguish in The Metamorphoses. It makes a chilling passage in the story even more chilling:

Translated by Donna Freed:Upon hearing the mother's words, Gregor realized the lack of any direct human exchange, coupled with the monotony of the family's life, must have confused his mind; he could not otherwise explain to himself how he could have wished to have his room cleared out. Did he really wish his warm room, comfortably furnished with old family heirlooms to be transformed into a lair in which he certainly would be able to crawl freely in any direction but at the price of rapidly and completely forgetting his human past?


The drive to go beyond the perspective of blame is clearly visible in Kafka's Reflections on Sin, Pain, Hope and the True Way. The reference to eating droppings from the table appears in aphorism #69:

Translated by Willa and Edwin Muir:He eats the droppings from his own table; thus he manages to stuff himself fuller than the others for a little, but meanwhile he forgets how to eat from the table; thus in time even the droppings cease to fall
.



Amity March 16, 2021 at 16:39 #511047
Quoting Valentinus
The letter is interesting. One can certainly see the anguish in The Metamorphoses. It makes a chilling passage in the story even more chilling


The letter is astonishing.
Appreciate the quotes - they encourage me to read more.

Quoting Valentinus
The drive to go beyond the perspective of blame is clearly visible in Kafka's Reflections on Sin, Pain, Hope and the True Way.


I am truly impressed now with Kafka. Getting to know him seems like a good use of time.
Why didn't I see it before ? Possibly limited access, brain caged off or something...






Tom Storm March 16, 2021 at 20:01 #511089
Quoting Amity
I was asking another question.

Understanding Kafka.
Have you read his 'Letter to His Father' ? What do you think of it ?
https://www.brainpickings.org/2015/03/05/franz-kafka-letter-father/
— Amity


I didn't have a comment on the letter.
Amity March 16, 2021 at 20:04 #511093
Quoting Tom Storm
I didn't have a comment on the letter.


OK.
Deleted User March 20, 2021 at 17:26 #512645
Reply to New2K2 To me the cage is the Iron Cage as described by Max Weber. It's the unfreedom caused by modern society. And the birds are humans. That's why one most remain vigilant not to become a slave to the system.

I do believe that death will set us free. The challenge is to live a satisfying life until that moment comes.